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The symbol shows the location of the Carmel (Carmarthenshire, Wales) transmitter which serves 72,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Carmel (Carmarthenshire, Wales) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Carmel transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23- (489.8MHz)411mDTG-20,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) Wales, 2 BBC Two Wales, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 250 BBC Red Button, plus 13 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)411mDTG-20,000W
Channel icons
5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Wales),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C29 (538.0MHz)411mDTG-20,000W
Channel icons
56 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD Wales, 102 BBC Two HD (England), 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 110 Channel 4 HD (Wales), 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H -3dB
C33 (570.0MHz)411mDTG-810,000W
Channel icons
 E4 (Wales), 20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 41 Legend, 46 Channel 5 +1, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 CBS Reality, 74 Dave ja vu, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 89 ITV4 +1, 203 CITV, 208 POP MAX, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, plus 13 others

COM5
ArqA
 H -3dB
C36 (594.0MHz)411mDTG-810,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Arts, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 pick, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 57 Smithsonian Channel, 60 Drama +1, 70 Quest +1, 75 Yesterday +1, 83 Together TV, 233 Sky News, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 H -3dB
C48 (690.0MHz)411mDTG-810,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 71 Quest Red +1, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 88 Classic Hits, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 19 others

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Are you trying to watch these 0 Freeview HD channels?


The Carmel (Carmarthenshire, Wales) mast is not one of the extended Freeview HD (COM7 and COM8) transmitters, it does not provide these high definition (HD) channels: .

If you want to watch these HD channels, either use Freesat HD, or move your TV aerial must point to one of the 30 Full Freeview HD transmitters. For more information see the want to know which transmitters will carry extra Freeview HD? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Carmel transmitter?

regional news image
BBC Wales Today 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 2YQ, 68km east-southeast (122°)
to BBC Wales region - 206 masts.
regional news image
ITV Cymru Wales 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 6XJ, 68km southeast (127°)
to ITV Wales region - 206 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

AbergorlechActive deflectorDyfed5 homes
CwmereActive deflector11 km NE Aberystwyth10 homes

How will the Carmel (Carmarthenshire, Wales) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20092009-132013-182013-1717 Jul 2019
C/D EC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D E TC/D E TW T
C23BBCA
C26D3+4
C29BBCB
C33SDN
C36ArqA
C48ArqB
C49tv_off ArqBArqB
C53tv_offC4wavesC4wavesC4wavesD3+4D3+4D3+4
C54tv_offSDNSDNSDN
C55tv_off_local_local_local_local
C57tv_offBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBCBBBCBBBCB
C58tv_offArqAArqAArqA
C60tv_offITVwavesITVwavesITVwaves -BBCA-BBCA
C61ArqB
C63BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2waves

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 26 Aug 09 and 23 Sep 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 100kW
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 20kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB(-10dB) 10kW
Mux A*(-13dB) 5kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux B*(-16dB) 2.5kW
Mux C*, Mux D*(-20dB) 1000W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Carmel transmitter area

Jan 1958-Jul 1968Television Wales and the West
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Harlech Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Carmel was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Is the transmitter output the same in all directions?

Radiation patterns withheld

Comments
Thursday, 18 July 2019
MikeP
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9:35 AM

Derek Brabrook:

We can only offer suggestions if you give a full poist code so that we can examine the expected reception at your location and also determine which of the over 1100 transmitters covers that area.



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11:08 AM

CARMEL transmitter - Freeview: BBC Digital TV Off Air; DSO related from 00:01 yesterday to 04:30 yesterday, HD Digital TV Off Air; DSO related from 00:01 yesterday to 04:30 yesterday. [BBC]

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Chris.SE
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1:11 PM

Derek Brabrook:

I take it that COM6 is back on air now. I had meant to address my previous post here to you, apologies.

MikeP:
I think you misread his post. He's using Carmel & has line of sight.

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MikeP
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7:53 PM

Chris,SE:

As he has 'line of sight' of the transmitter, I wanted to see how close he is. I used to live in the East midlands and had 'line of sight' of the Waltham transmitter - but was 21 miles away! Last year we rented a cottage in the North York Moors and had 'line of sight' of the Bilsdale transmitter - 27 miles away! But 'line of sight' could also be interpreted as being a mile or so, in which case he could be too close and have too much signal. That's why it is important to have an indication of the distance from the source.

So please encourage people asking for our advice to provide a full post code so we can get a clear picture of the situation.



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Derek Brabrook
9:17 PM
Carmarthen

MikeP: SA31 3NL

its definitely line of sight I was originally pointed at
Preseli but Carmel is closer and has an unbroken line
of sight, I profiled it.

The antenna is fed into a Johansson 6600 profiler which
Has had all muxs levelled to within acceptable levels
And then fed to the distribution amplifier

The media server is fed off a 30db atm


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Derek Brabrook
9:28 PM

The other mux's are working fine good signal

but 690Mhz (48) is still dead

I'll give them a ring tomorrow


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Chris.SE
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4:51 AM

MikeP:

I think the rest of the content of Derek's post(s) shows he very much knows what he's on about, the issue seems to be COM6.

Derek Brabrook:

I assume that you've checked COM6 with that neighbour again, I'd have thought more people would have been complaining if it was still off-air, but then again ......

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5:08 AM

CARMEL transmitter - Freeview: BBC Digital TV Off Air; DSO related from 00:01 on 17 Jul to 04:30 on 17 Jul, HD Digital TV Off Air; DSO related from 00:01 on 17 Jul to 04:30 on 17 Jul. [BBC]

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Roger Mellie
7:06 AM

Derek Brabrook: Ring who exactly? Your line of sight to a major transmitter with absolutely no one else complaining, yet somehow its not your equipment?

You do realise that the transmitter owner has a 24/7 control room monitoring every transmitter constantly? If the COM6 multiplex was off air they would know and would fix it. But its not. Maybe there is an issue very local to you, but its certainly not a transmitter problem.

Perhaps your few hundred quids worth of consumer kit is actually at fault? rather than the several million pounds worth of professional, multi-redundant hardware operated by the broadcasters?

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Chris.SE
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10:24 AM

Roger Mellie:

There's no need to be that rude, he didn't say it wasn't his equipment, but I did suggest he checked with that neighbour again, perhaps you should have read the earlier posts.
I assume you are picking up COM6 OK? What's your postcode?
It's always possible that there's some peculiar issue which hasn't yet been discovered, although I'm doubting that, the antenna may not be radiating correctly in all directions for example. I have known transmitter faults that haven't been reported, yet get fixed in not a very timely manner!

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