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It's alright to be ITV Hub will discuss what it means for ITV streaming strategy and joint venture britbox has been released profiling UK news provider discover who's leading the pack need to know Warren nettleford shows the relaunch of the platform and the award-winning formula for making engaging used for teens in the media quiz.

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This is on Wikipedia under pressure to describe the war as a military operation with RT being pulled from Fox tell and sky platforms and from the me to Netflix during the cultural Boycott in response to that a Putin invasion of Ukraine and another new claim TV documentary maker Rodger has passed on aged 85.

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This week is Charlotte tobitt UK editor of the press Gazette welcome Charlotte DFT has hit a million paying digital subscribers this isn't that long after New York time to similar results is subscription it for news now.

Is that is that everyone's going I mean a lot of businesses at working, but I don't think it's everyone reach for it for this week are full year results and made reached a target of 10 million patients early and registrations at that means people that signed up with the email address, but they're not paying people are people that are just getting used to it and things like that to say I think it's like reach for that.

Sort of using their scale to reach people and then using the audience data in the best way possible then.

No it don't you just delete need subscriptions, but I can't be on the same strategy today from Australia is James cridland editor of pod news.

Twitter could be adding podcasts to its platform.

What do we know about that? Yes, that's interesting.

What do we know about that? We know very little about that and I'll tell you when we have literally to screengrabs and they are screen grab the way that they've worked out how the screen grabs work is it's essentially two researchers who take a look at the code of a the app and work out what Twitter might be turning on in the future and they've found that there is an exciting button podcasts which is a picture of an old 1940s microphone and it says podcasting it.

We know nothing more than that now.

It could be a full podcast app inside Twitter would be very exciting and maybe it would surface the podcast that is from people who you follow or it could be reheated Twitter spaces conversations and that might be slightly less exciting but yeah, I would have said absolutely nothing.

Anything that we know is a little a little picture of an old fashioned microphone in the World podcast next to it pretty good podcast that but not here bring together.

What your friends.

Maybe can see you and it's an app that a lot of people if you use it have it open all day.

Yeah, I think it would be a fantastic podcast app and one of the benefits of course on of Twitter for those who use it and of course not everybody is it but for those people who use it is got this really deep social graph it understands what you're into it understands what type of content that you are in and so therefore being able to surface podcasts in there as well makes a bunch of sense.

They did by the team behind breaker which was a very good podcast app last year.

So they have you got the chops in the understanding of how podcasting works so fascinating to watch what happens there and I'll see the big book of stories for entries are open after the British podcast awards.

If you have a podcast you sent her a British podcast Awards.com right plug over a story that much speculation ITV has bought out the BBC share of Britain UK that's a hell of a launches his new streaming service ITV X it seems to be a sort of Sully minor point on them going big on on their new streaming service but one to explore what is this buyout mean for britbox James this is britbox available obviously in the UK but is also available in other countries we have here in the here in Australia I haven't tried using it and britbox is also available in the USA think one of the problems in terms of britbox.

Overseas certainly is that many of the other broadcasters have already snapped up the best bits of the BBC's output and indeed of ITV's output so therefore it's not available on britbox.

It's available on other things it.

All through foxtail, it's available through and Stan or through binge all the various individual services which are available here and so from that point of view britbox is weird sort of mix of basically quite old stuff that some people like in that's kind of it.

I think it in the UK though it's a very different conversation and I think you know I TV is clearly focusing much more now on its own plan moving at forward and getting rid of the ITV hub moving into ITV ex is this deal to sort of Edge the BBC's ownership out of brick box in the UK it still is coming with ITV overseas by the BBC or lead by ITV who asked you to to get out you think I think it's interesting I think if you look a little bit wider at what the BBC have been doing 15 years ago.

They are all about working together.

Special industry, they had project kangaroo or they try to get Project kangaroo.

They successfully launch radio player which is all of UK radio in one place you view of course was a fantastic service which the BBC was very much involved with and other things as well now you get the you know you get the the idea that what the BBC is keen about now is Bill their own properties and not working together with other people so it's the iPlayer or nothing.

It's BBC sounds.

That's basically where things are going and they're pulling off open podcasts and everything else.

I think my view is that the BBC has changed its strategy long you know it's it main strategy and is very much focusing now on not necessarily fighting against the Spotify of this world and the YouTube's of this world, but doubling down on what BBC brand is which causes massive in the UK and being fair.

Not that big anywhere else ITV shares fell 14% on Thursday off the back of the news of ITV X I wonder if it's not about their particular strategies so much as everyone else like really we need another streaming service because of I mean as we discussed on here blades.

I know you know there is so many there's any so so many that every person is going to get however what I think actually sounds good about ITV access the fact that they still be this massive three-component kind of sounds like a lot of it will be a better ITV hub which we know that people will like because people hate ITV hub.

You only have to look it like €20 last year when people were made so you've got the subscription portion which basically means no advertising which lots of people if they can afford it will want to come up for and also the bread box stuff.

It's an interesting way that they are trying it then obviously realised that with everything else going on in the streaming and broadcast landscape.

They need a better position themselves, but yeah, I wonder if it's if if the shares dropped was more about just good they show do we really need this but I feel about it to America looks by doubling down on the streaming services paramount traditional broadcasters, so no CBS into paramount with our service or a peacock James in Australia it's going to slightly different and they've got their got a reach-around genre is haven't made with streaming services.

Tell which is a large Murdoch company really is the market leader in terms of the streaming what they've done very cleverly.

Is that they have taken the rights that they have from.

Satellite television service so very similar to Sky in the UK they've taken the rights that they have for that and piled all of those shows into a product that they called Bin as a as a streaming service Avengers fascinating because if you go and diving into the menus far enough then you'll actually find some live TV channels in there no EPG does no understanding of what might be on these particular, but they're all hidden away in there and the reason why the hidden away in there is that then give them the rights to take all of the shows from these service make them available on Demand as well, so it's a very clever plan and then you have additional streaming services from all of the big commercial networks of the three big commercial networks the two public service broadcasters and and a couple of other things you know in there as well.

So it's a really interesting market for only 24 million people and fascinating too.

See just the breadth of content which is available to BBC holding strong in The Newsroom the latest data from ipsos Iris shows of the BBC reach 38.7 million people that 78% reach in January this year with all that suspending 9.1 billion minutes on it's sites and apps as well here but one of the surprising can and you should have mentioned it already Charlotte is the reach own titles population of the top half of the list of them m e n Manchester Evening News the leading local news title.

I mean reach becoming you know someone with a large amount of reaches is essential for them either contender on the Block 2 to watch definitely recently list of the fastest-growing sites in the UK that is always dominated by the reachlocal sites.

Just loads and loads of them all.

Just growing so quick.

And it's also worth noting from a different story that we've done a couple of weeks ago about not just individual news brandsbutt about the overall online companies BBC when you're combining all of the reach properties.

They are actually tussling for after a long time with the BBC being you know by far the biggest news organisations in the country, so reaches really growing so quickly holding its own and now yeah, it's just a minute.

I was that scale.

I mentioned earlier that their results came out this week and what's interesting is that although the there's also plans this week because of warning the game about prophets upcoming yeah most to do with print and you know the same old energy costs and inflation that everyone's worried about the moment but in digital the really well.

And the basically saying for the first time in particular like hasn't happened quite yet digital is really upsetting that print declining even though they still only a quarter of overall revenues.

I think it was so if that continues to grow then obviously the very much going in the direction lots and lots of titles turn off.

He's all that the local titles as well and probably pretty strong SEO Focus is that what's driving there volume of success social distortion of a couple of months ago.

I think about the hell the national titles in particular.

Sort of change their social strategy that she grown their team and they're basically saying you actually if you invest in your team that it's worthwhile to reach is about 1 million pop-ups on every page they do they do like filling there there.

Lots of extra information, don't they Charlotte it's hard to know you I feel like a man journalist circles.

We all sort of have the sites that we know that you're going to see more pop up some the sites that are easy to read but what what are normal people thinking about them everyday news sites.

That's probably find out but yeah, I would suggest that the biggest risk of the advertising model and it but as I say they are still going for now say something not an immediate problem.

I've noticed in the is that actually what were seeing here is we sing it all internet traffic so the BBC's number 38 million is everything that the BBC is doing that includes iPlayer and CBeebies and the Radio 2.

It's not just the BBC News website and actually once you look at the entire traffic across reach for example reaches bigger than the BBC reaches reaching 39 million people the BBC only 38.7 however people are reach website suspended far less time and spending 43 minutes vs.

The BBC's almost 4 hours so just look at that the other thing I noticed from this data.

Is that the future is doing really well and future is actually doing better than the Guardians website and one of the things that I think everybody assumes is the future of the internet is that magazines and that sort of magazine information is going to go away because why on earth.

Would you individual magazines like that, but future has a lot of different magazines and is doing fantastically well according to some of this information so perhaps there is a future.

Awesome quite a carefully targeted niche titles that future puts together been building up the whole of scale recently acquired some applications that we talk about in a in a previous week as well like the procedures at team or elsewhere if we're talking about like strategies and who's doing well in general and be certain things teacher's name always comes up.

I think they're doing well as you said upscale, but they've also figured out how to use it so they're not just got size for the sake of it though.

They've got good strategies around for example e-commerce and their own data.

I definitely think they want to watch if you're not watching ready and James with you kind of Australia new strategies.

There's a big Ferrari last year with Google and

Having to pay your news providers to to have content on on their platforms without having to wait for the government to tell them to do that.

I mean if you ask my own personal opinion, I think it's ridiculous, but the difficulty of course because Google and face the jumped in and said it's ok will pay you some money is they've done it on their terms rather than on the government's terms which means that Murdoch is very happy because Murdoch has a deal.

You know the seven Media Group has a deal the ABC and SBS has a deal in virtually nobody else does so if you're one of the smaller publishers if you're the Saturday paper for exam all your a small regional news provider then you've got nothing out of a ticket the tail and so the government doing their sabre rattling hasn't actually.

Particularly much the concern of courses that people in other countries and particularly Canada have looked at what happened in Australia and gone all brilliant we can get money for our news organisations by threatening Google and threatening Facebook as well and so I suspect that we'll see more of those to come if they're going to do that my my advice is somebody that watched it happen here is to go through with the actual law rather than just to sit there and and Force Google and Facebook to United to end up doing their own thing cos I don't think that's particularly helpful.

You just quickly Charlotte Nadine dorries here said that she's up for an Australia plus plus plus plan to go to roll that same sort of idea in the UK that is on the cards mean to be up for it from publishers here and

My colleague will turn to destroy a couple of weeks ago when he spoke to some sources on Fleet Street or in a what we know still no sleep straight and yeah, they seem pretty confident that this is going to happen none of this type of legislation to have a very quickly but obviously there is appetite for it to happen quickly, so it just depends on how much pressure is put on the government of space moving on to know is a new service and to make current affairs trendy is the Kardashians after covering the 2019 UK General Election for young people they bad to Royal television Society Award for journalism now need to know his bike relaunching is a digital network with their first episodes going out on YouTube this week.

I spoke to co-founder and former channel 5 news presenter Warren nettleford to learn about the Startup plans.

I mean we had a really clear plan in terms of which episodes are releasing which we can.

Into the what we thought the media gender would be and then President Putin decide to invade Ukraine which obviously is now the only story in town now.

Thank you too.

Big spirit.

Got on the team.

We do have contacts and with pound of really good story which were putting out of the special this week about a young woman from London to call Sasha who is a rescue her mum from a Ukrainian refugee.

Camp you know Saturday night cocktails in Soho Sunday night.

She's going to Romania to go and get her before driving in the night to you know the refugee camp.

It's incredible story but there a budgetary implications because we plan to do things differently I think it's just a case of a second up be nimble with debating right now that go into and pocket again and make it work because we're do believe in the project and I'm just hoping that it comes up I think it will.

And in some ways it just shows you the importance of planning for the unexpected now of course we did leave some money in the budget for you know things that could go wrong and this is 8 network down to use for digital projects.

You never quite know which episodes capture people's imagination and colour bring the more regularly into the material waiting days to scribers, so I guess there's lots of potential opportunities that the people in and I guess this is one of those as well.

Yeah.

Well, just when you through actually a different episodes series at the moment, so we've got out now the first about two episodes of the royal family should we wave goodbye to them? We've done lots of opinion polling working with them deltapoll to after young people they be used in be interesting to see the the different viewpoints of people there are over 30 compared under 30s when it comes to the Royal family should I apologise for their colonial past?

The next cannabis is it time to legalize it or not then something on fake news which I think is really person and quiet now got a fantastic interview with the editor of The BBC this place unit Rebecca slippage talk through what they do to tackle fake news and how they work which I think people give me really interested in right now.

Especially is bacon.

You just begin take over and social media misinformation and disinformation.

I should say we doing an episode of influences that control the Tech companies need to do more is only for Greater regulation.

Is it time to abolish private schools that question should London divorce the UK with ask that question to believe that really big topics but with new lines attached to them as well and now cause.

I've got Ukraine is just some of the episodes in the series young people and the News interview.

I'll be interested in the news which I think will probably better as rubbish and not true at all.

Who is Connor you's Media on the younger in Newsround really like the rundown for ITV they do a sort of Instagram stories bulletin daily with what's reaching audiences.

It's interesting because yeah eventually run down and Newsround and you know I grow up on a diet of Newsround him anyway.

That's why I got involved and wanted to become during this because you know I'd see Krishnan guru-murthy presenting the show and then Matthew Price a little later on and I thought it was as well.

You know journalism can be fun.

It's really interesting revealing what's happening in the world Newsround got a lot to answer phone and it comes to my own career but I think what's happened is because those institutions are called that you know the BBC ITN weather Folkestone is still television and I don't like property grass to the new grammar or try to develop their own new Grandma when it comes to a news for the younger viewers on the social platforms, so it's not about being patronise.

When you're speaking to young people talking down to them.

It's about just clearly explaining but understanding that the way that someone interacts with users content on iPhone or on YouTube or on Instagram or tiktok is going to be different.

There's a different feeling when you're on tiktok in the different expectations what you going to get so for instance.

I will never expect like a 25 part documentary on tiktok about what's happening in you know Siri or Ukraine anyone that he just wouldn't work in the same kind of format.

You've got to be able to understand works and how it works and then alter accordingly but for us the big thing which way Folkestone it's being impartial and balanced and we made a decision to follow.

They have gone broadcasting can't even though there's nobody getting the right of Institute the latest research shows that young people rate the news broadcasters on television is being very accurate but they're not engaging with them.

So it's alright game.

They think accuracy and impartiality and balances important, but how to transfer that to the Digital space and then correct format which fits in with that digital space to so I think that's that success initially and now it's about to start again on YouTube and doing that I'm building an audience that was a little food that you can catch the latest need to know episodes as Warren said at ntk network if you're right listen Media podcast and are excited with a new episode appears in your podcast out perhaps.

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We saw Peter Crouch jump ship from the BBC to a cost at this is for his podcast James is a trend with independent companies.

We have a better podcasting deal or is there something else going on here? I think there's certainly more creative freedom if you're working for an independent company then if you're working for a large corporation with 23000 people working there.

So yeah.

I'm sure it was something around that this there is a little bit strange because this is just Peter Crouch leaving this is the entire BBC show complete with the artwork and I believe the podcast feed as well.

It Peter crouch's new production company was called tall or nothing has hired BBC producer George cotton that puts that show together at Christmas

Who's on radio one will still be part of that shows well though, they've lost Tom fordyce as I understand it, but it's very strange one to me you know BBC 5 live started that show in 28 and it's had more than 60 million downloads BBC have invested a lot in it in it and they've basically wrapped it up as a little parcel as all of their intellectual property and giving it to Peter Crouch to go and make some money on the commercial market.

It's her it's a strange one from my point of view and I wonder whether or not the secret is if you're doing a show for the BBC try and get your name into the shows title because otherwise VIP is completely worthless what you said there about the technical but if you're a subscriber to the BBC show will you get automatically moved across to the to the new a cost driven one generally when they sort of things have happened.

The Old provider is could have kept the subscribers and you have to sort of Start From Scratch are you saying that they going to take their BBC subscribers with them understanding is it's the same show it's the show as you've known and loved it and it will continue and of course the BBC podcast infrastructure is actually done by a class outside of the UK certainly anyway, so it's a relatively easy.

I think it cost to end up doing this but my understanding is yeah, I mean it's the same show that the same artwork the same everything you know and that is now available to a commercial company 8 cost haven't paid for VIP because it's actually a cost to talking directly to Peter crouch's new production company, but it's you know it's a strange one it is you know it has been a pain in the past about who owns the IP for things if you remember back a couple of years ago Brittany Lewis and Eric eddings.

Who did a show in the US called the nod which they pitch to The Host

Gimlet then they wanted to do other things worse than giving it turned around and said no and so therefore you know they were a little bit stuck there.

I think of these sorts of IP conversations are going on all the time particularly with independent production companies and it's interesting seeing this as being a real outlier in terms of being able to essentially take a show and give it to a commercial is Mr Palmanova tallant podcast if your name is in the title of the show is basically about you whoever the produced whoever the platform is what the deal.

Is you can never really own the IP of an individual.

Can you know I think there's certainly something in the house and I'm sure that we can have a look back into the 1970s before any of us were born and a point to Morecambe and Wise has been a great example of that between the BBC

Broadcast as we talked about soapland make this last week and further high-profile, exit Piers Wenger director of drama and rose Garnett director of film with the BBC is the part in May is this a BBC prognostic just because we're in a really hot market and if you worked at the big public broadcasting you're in demand by others.

I think it's definitely a hot market.

I think we're coming out of the pandemic Close rush for talent at the moment.

I need you can deny that.

There's obviously something going on it within the BBC especially those two different percent not news, but especially with the news of the Seekers you had Tim Davies impartiality drive and you've got a lot more restrictions perhaps another before and what what channels can say tweet then and then obviously the commercial broadcasters have

DK pockets, I think a lot of that as is just happening to combine at the moment.

That's because if you work for the BBC you've got like Daily Mail issues.

What the the BBC can do to support you are not support you you've got issues around like your own opportunities to do commercial things anything you say will be jumped on and probably not gonna get as much money as you would elsewhere I mean James you've new went for commercial to BBC and then you are out again the other side decent decent time ago this isn't really the BBC's fault.

It's the externalities for that sit around it.

I think there's certainly something to be said for just creative freedom and you know if you end up doing at work for the BBC you have you know as you said you say all of the rules and regulations of what you can and can't say what you can say on social media.

You can't say on various other things when you only have to have a look at RTE Who last week hired the two johnnies who are very popular podcasts in Ireland they put them on the radio 2 days before they tweeted something that was apparently grossly offensive and they've been taken off the radio haven't been seen since you know I think that you know people aren't necessarily you know very very aware of just the creatively difficult type of that the rates in some of these large organisations and clearly now.

You have streaming services you have a podcast to you have all manner of different ways of getting your creative output out there without any of that interference.

I think that you know more and more interesting.

You know two people as they can see that they can earn a decent wage.

Charlotte I'm interpreter.

This is going to be the new bosses for BBC news that some big Talent coming into the organisation one do we know anymore about when we think that might be in Tooting actually that might shake up BBC news in the Spice and more people to join you I don't think we know anymore about what it will be a think it will still be thought of as we discussed before I was a bit of a castle with BBC and ITV is yet.

Obviously she will be naughty and no it seems that she's very popular in the industry and I think she'll you bring a good breath of fresh air and to be honest the media quiz this week.

It's entitled cut or commissioned now.

I'll give you 3 lines where broadcaster or streamer has had a major change this week.

You just fill in the blank the three rounds person with your name if you know the answer so Charlotte you will say Charlotte

and James you will say James let's play cut or commissions right number one what long-standing television series will be saying goodbye for good.

James neighbours, it's neighbours definitely neighbours bass down here a bit of course watched up where you are too, but yes, that's right neighbours been cut afternoon 37 years and almost 9000 episodes.

It's been confirmed that the TV show for cease production rip Ramsay Street neighbours Australia 03 James but it's going down your neck of the woods.

I mean a few people have been slightly upset on Twitter but then a few people that slightly upset on Twitter about anything so I don't suppose it's much difference.

You know really isn't very large here.

It's it's on network 10 which is the least popular commercial network here so the third most popular Disney van on channel 10 channel called 10 peach if you're if you're interested, they have 10 peach 10 bold and 10 shake no idea but 10 peach is the third most.

What's the channel run by network 10 and neighbours that when I looked yesterday the last episode had 123000 viewers now if you get a million viewers hear your number if you have a look at home and away and that was doing half a million and that was the number 14 in the list of most popular TV shows so neighbours really watched anymore.

It's always been watched for more in the UK the real sadness there is that is probably the only piece of drama.

That's being produced here and Australia it's being part of training for an awful.

Lot of people getting into TV and so it's going to be sadly missed in terms of that, but I don't think it's going to be missed.

I'm afraid by the audience you just found out that it was all another one of Oz dreams after all the whole thing that affects what part of the BBC has announced a new series of

This week's factual are factual entertainment some documentaries as a new one by the people that did once upon a time in Iraq which was he to popular really really good.

I've got Scarlett Moffatt interestingly for a show which is usually on ITV so but yes lots of stuff at the BBC which and thought I'd take this opportunity to mention.

Obviously everyone's been talking this week about the BBC in Ukraine and and then yesterday had Nadine dorries in the in the commons some people put practically shedding a tear as she said thank you to the other journals including BBC weather out there and obviously he wants but she is trying to as some people think destroy the BBC by changing the Sunday model.

Yes, if you Charlotte and natural history art series.

Investing in as you said and you show from Scarlett Moffatt also campaign for the Queen's Jubilee on the Dean it's almost as if it is quite complex and having a single myopic view on what station does maybe doesn't reflect it, but that wouldn't be for me to say question 3 which streaming provider will be launching a quiz to entice general knowledge lovers Charlotte Netflix think that shows called trivia quest.

I don't know he goes have tried the new Charlie Brooker cat burglar which is sort of a relation of the same thing is I think it was like a 10-minute cartoon where I met was trivia as well as opposed to making a choice that was based on trivia.

So I quite enjoyed I thought I was really say I actually think that could be really fun.

They just leaving into interactive things of bandersnatch was the first one and she mentioned.

They're the same people have made.

Tex Avery inspired a quiz show as you said the brand new interactive daily quiz show is going to be coming to NetFlix subscribers soon tribute quest Netflix's found its word always that what they're after clearly Netflix has realised that I mean at the end of the day.

You've got some shows which Netflix has which which are other people don't and then you've got the rest of the catalogue which is simply available all over the place in so Netflix just like Spotify and just like all the services is looking for something which is a little bit different and if interactivity is going to be one of their differences.

I think that's a great thing for them to be concentrating on the quiz Charlotte's you're the winner.

You'll be getting that big picture of Mrs mangel in the post from the neighbours.

And that's for today in my thanks to Charlotte obit and James cridland James where can people find the latest news updates.

I'm so glad you asked her mate will find it on your smart at pod news.net where you can sign up for free and Charlotte how can people keep up with your work? Just go to press gazette.co.uk or find me on Twitter at Charlotte tobitt this point.

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My people were still here.

My family is here.

So how do you talk about a city maggots disappear? My name is Jessica care more this is in a section C trait resilience and herself in the heart of the day on Apple podcasts Spotify or wherever you find great stories.