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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
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20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 Dave ja vu, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 89 ITV4 +1, 91 WildEarth, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 267 Al Jazeera English, plus 30 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 75 That's 90s, 233 Sky News, plus 11 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 61 GREAT! movies extra, 63 GREAT! romance mix, 71 That’s 60s, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Monday, 28 March 2011
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kieran r
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2:06 PM

i dont under stand why we are having the digitl switchover cansle it pleas



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Mike Dimmick
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3:53 PM
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Kieran R: Sorry, for some reason you had a Southend-on-Sea postcode against your post which I assumed was correct.

If you're using Crystal Palace it's even more likely that the fault is somewhere at your end. Black-and-white and fuzzy/snowy indicates low signal levels or high noise levels. Black-and-white, but clear, suggests a problem with your TV. Check the Colour control!

Digital UK's predictor shows that for you, reception from Crystal Palace will be highly variable now, and up to switchover. While the PSB multiplexes are expected to work reasonably well after switchover, the COM multiplexes probably won't - it shows no prediction, because the same channels are used for the commercial multiplexes from Rowridge.

If you just moved your aerial, rather than changing it, it probably won't work very well. Hannington requires a Group E aerial designed to cover channels 35 to 68, while Crystal Palace requires a Group A aerial designed to cover channels 21 to 38. Wideband and semi-wideband aerials like the Group E type are a compromise, and they're particularly poor at lower frequencies compared to a similar-sized aerial designed for the job.

The analogue signals have to be switched off to make digital TV available to the vast majority of the population, and much more reliable for most of the people who have it now. There just isn't space in the UHF TV band for high power digital at all sites alongside analogue on their current frequencies. The Government also wants to sell off a part of the band for other services.

If you really can't avoid the trees, you will have to consider satellite or cable.

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Tuesday, 29 March 2011
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Scott
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8:30 PM

The introduction shows Associated Rediffusion as the ITV company from 1955 to 1968. Technically I believe that Associated Rediffusion operated from 1955 to 1964, then Rediffusion London from 1964 to 1968 (when Associated Newspapers was no longer involved).

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Wednesday, 30 March 2011
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Nick
12:27 AM

Hi,
Ive had a Group A aerial fitted to receive Crystal Palace from Stevenage. Works ok.
Notice that after switchover a new Mux 8 is to appear on Chan 42 outside Group A? Does this mean I should really have installed a wideband aerial? Is this info correct? UK Digital site doesnt show this new channel and states Group A will be Ok now and in future?

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Mike Dimmick
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8:33 AM

Nick:

That information comes from NGW's Interleaved Frequencies analysis of what channels new multiplexes could potentially be launched on to reach the maximum amount of the Crystal Palace coverage area.

I'd be surprised if enough additional TV services were ready to launch by mid-2012 to require a second new multiplex - C29 (NEW7) would be preferred, but even that isn't ready to go at switchover. There's also a strong chance that the channel plan would have to be redone since the plan it was based on wasn't final.

The plans were made on the basis that while C42 is strictly outside Group A, many Group A aerials have usable gain at that frequency. It's not a sharp cut-off at C38. However, looking at some gain curves I think they're being optimistic: Gain (curves), Again (RG47SH)

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Saturday, 2 April 2011
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kieran r
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5:00 PM
Basingstoke

mike dimmick: i have used hannington i got fedup with the trees so i pointed my aerial to C.P i have problems with mux 1 and A i have re checed the tv the tv is fine my post code is RG23 8DS


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Mike Dimmick
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6:00 PM
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Kieran R: I really can't offer any other advice. The signal strength is either too low or the level of interference too high - probably both - for services from Crystal Palace to be reliable at the moment. It will vary over time, because the signal strength *does* vary with changes in weather conditions, including as the atmosphere warms in the morning and cools at night. This is taken into account in the predictions - it's why Digital UK give quite a conservative prediction to the general public, and why the trade view is expressed in probabilities.

Your options are to stick it out for about a year until Crystal Palace switches over (but you might not get mux A, C or D), put the aerial on a longer pole to see over the trees, move the aerial to a different point on the building to see around the trees, cut down or prune the trees, or get satellite or cable.

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kieran r
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7:29 PM

mike dimmik: i dont have trees in the way of C.P but i do on H.Tower im ment to be in a good signal aera

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Sunday, 3 April 2011
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Boo
6:49 PM

Have lost all channels in MUX A entirely on Freeview this week, postcode WD19 area, Watford. Have two boxes on different aerials. One aerial is in a loft, the other is exterior. Both on Crystal Palace transmitter. Have tried resetting both boxes but channels are still not found. Any ideas?

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Monday, 4 April 2011
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Anthony
11:43 AM

I have recently moved in to a property in N7 9SE and tried to set up Freeview HD using the built-in FreeviewHD tuner in my Sony KDL-46EX703U.

I autotuned the digital service and 108 Channels were found. All the standard channels are working fine, but when I browse to any HD channels the signal appears for a split second and goes, flickering in and out of view. What appears is a random image of green squares and so on.

The TV is connected to a communal roof arial and the cabling and arial seem sturdy and not obviously broken - as far as I can see.

Can anyone advise whether I am experiencing bad signal or perhaps the wrong arial etc?

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